Talk:Toronto Signals Band

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"Canada's Marching Ambassadors" = Second Signals?

It is my understanding that many of the senior Canadian corps of the 50's were the result of musicians that participated in Canadian Forces bands breaking away from regimental bands to form their own groups as the regimental bands did not wish to adopt the American/VFW-style that today we would recognize as drum corps. Jolly Jesters were an example of this.

I had thought that "Canada's Marching Ambassadors" were the break-away corps-version of a regimental band. A band that survived as the Second Sigs but the history on the Second Sigs page seems to refute this.

Are there any Canadian old-timers out there that can shed some light on this?

--Sam King 11:00, 4 Aug 2005 (PDT)


I remember seeing contests in the late 50's early 60's and seeing the Ambassadors and Second Sigs as separate units. Later on the Ambassadors merged with the Port Credit Saints, if my memory serves me correctly RRMerlin 12 April 2007

That would account for the multiple Ambassadors in the Toronto area. We still need to clear up how the Sigs got the name Marching Ambassadors. Perhaps they picked it up after Port Credit folded? --Sam King 09:31, 12 April 2007 (PDT)
They were Canada'a Marching Ambassadors in the late 50's then they merged with Saints, I believe, in the early 60's about the same time as Jolly Jesters became Jesters and then merged with Viscounts in Hamilton to become the Canadian Commanders...The names for both CMA was shortened to Ambassadors and was CC shortened to Commander. Helps or muddies the waters more?

RRMerlin 13 April 2007

In the mid 1950s the corps was known as 2nd Signals Regiment. According to "The Encyclopedia of Drum and Bugle Corps" (1966), the "Canada's Marching Ambassadors" moniker was coined by a New Jersey journalist after seeing the corps at the National Dream Contest in Jersey City. It stuck as a nickname much as the Toronto Optimists became known popularly as "The Green Machine". After the corps developed an American style program it evolved into essentially two corps in one, known still as 2nd Signals in military appearances but as the Marching Ambassadors in the competitive arena.

Jamu98765 23:13, 13 April 2007 (PDT)

Not sure of the 2 corps in one as not only did the two have different uniforms but different equipment as well...Ambassadors were "famous" for silver horns with gold on the inside of the bells. Sure worth more investigation. RRMerlin 14 April 2007

One of the "other ambassadors" was The Ambassadors Drum and Bugle Corps formed in September, 1973, in Aurora, Ontario. This was a junior corps RRMerlin 02 May 2007