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[edit] New project proposal

Hey first time really getting into the wiki-thing. Been doing blogs and forums for a while and I think this is the best medium for the project I have in mind.

It is like corpsreps.com only much more indepth.

I wish to:

1. Create a page for every drum corps show ever created. 2. Put in critical info about the show; drill designer, music arranger, music, staff, members, influences, interesting notes, recording links. 3. Linking these shows so they are accessible by year, placement, corps, design, and awards won.

ALl of this info is out there somewhere and it would be great to get it all in one place. Placements are on DCI.org, staff for the most part are on individual corps sites, dsigners are scattered around.

I would like your help with this. I can put out the call to come and help edit pages if you can help set up the framework because I dont have that great of experience.

Ill put up a sample page so you can see what I am talking about.


Here is my sample Living With the Past Let me know, Joe Dacey

Hi Joe. This is certainly an ambitious project. There have been a lot of field shows by a lot of corps since the early 1900s so I am not sure how definitive we could be but that's no reason not to get started.
I think you have a good article template set up at Living With the Past. Perhaps the first part of the project will be to set up an actual template such as Template:Show
For now, I think your method of using the show title as the article title works well. However it's only been over the last 10 years or so that DCI corps have named their shows. For example when I marched with the Blue Devils in 1984 we didn't call the show a whole anything other than 'the show'. So we will need to come up with some way of naming shows without names
I think there should be a wide scope for this project so let's include any corps that made a field show from any country and any time period. It will be interesting to see how far they go back. I don't think I have seen a claim to have had the first field show made here. I imagine that or those corps are gone now.
I have set up a wiki project at DrumCorpsWiki:WikiProject_Shows and a category of Category:Field Shows (we can change that last name if need be). --Sam King 18:21, 18 March 2008 (PDT)

[edit] yup, its ambitious

  • yup, definitely ambitious and it definitely cant be done in a short timeframe...but its exciting to think all of this info could be in one place and how great of a resource this could be. I mean its kinda like corpsreps.com on steroids.
  • yeah the issue with "unnamed" shows from the past had crossed my mind - though I feel a simple fix such as "Concord Blue Devils 1984 Field Show" would suffice as a show title
  • another thing that crossed my mind is sourcing. the formal info could be sourced back to the corps website or Dci archives, however there really is no formal source for much of the "notes" section. I was thinking possibly sourcing the info to individual contributors. this would provide some accountability for the info posted. for example:

''This is the first year the Cadets marched with Euphoniums following the switch to B-flat instruments in 2000. They marched 6 of them and carried them like suitcases when at a trail.(Joe Dacey, Cadets 2004)''

  • the template looks great btw
  • I am going to try and get some of the contributors on Drum Corps Planet to help out... there is lots of knowledge floating around those boards.

---Joe Dacey 22:43, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

[edit] Some thoughts

  • I think gathering information on all of the shows is a great idea. Should we create a Show namespace?
  • It looked like some work had been done on an infobox template, but that it wasn't complete. I went ahead and made a DrumCorpsInfoBox template and put it on The Cavaliers page. It's fairly basic, and I won't be offended if anyone thinks we could store more information there.
  • On The Cavaliers page, someone has gone ahead and listed all of the shows in the main article. It's cool that the information is up there, but IMO it clutters up the page a bit. Could we maybe consider having a page separate from each corps' main page with just a listing of their shows? I would go ahead and change my corps' page but I figure we should discuss a standard way of doing it before committing to anything.

--Jayzer 16:35, 28 March 2008 (PDT);

I think it's a bit soon for a namespace. Do you mean something like Show:thatshowwedid? I am not sure what implications that would have for searching the wiki or for search engine indexing. For now I think it's best to stay in the main namespace.
Great work on the infobox. That was one of those things I never got around to completing.
Go ahead and break out pages when things get too big. There are a few corps pages that could use that. Hawthorne Caballeros is current length champion. --Sam King 23:20, 14 April 2008 (PDT)

[edit] Automation with bots or other enhancements

Sam,

Thanks for all your work maintaining the wiki. If you need anything from the server administration side, let me know. I can create some bots to do some of the repetitive edits you make if you haven't set one up already. If there's anything you need, just let me know. /WikiSysop/ 09:03, 9 June 2008 (PDT)

Thanks Harlan. I will do some reading up on bots in Mediawiki and see what would be useful. Perhaps we can set one up to automatically replace the word "legendary". :) --Sam King 12:43, 9 June 2008 (PDT)

[edit] Starlites Milwaukee WI

Not sure if this is the right place to put this as this is my first time doing anything like this. That said, my question/concern is this. The name of the Drum Corps, at least while I was in, was "Starlites", with the final "s". Some links seem to say Starlite and some say Starlites. For instance, Roman Blenski, a Hall of Famer, has a link to Starlites in his little bio. It goes to the Starlites page, which, it says, doesn't exist yet. The page i am working on is "Starlite", no final "s". This is where I was sent when I clicked on the link under the directory of corps. Any help would be appreciated. If there is a choice to be made, I vote for all links and articles be under "Starlites", not Starlite.

Thank you Dave

Hi Dave. I had noticed this inconsistency but had not summoned up the energy to address it. :) As you are the best reference we have for the corps so far (and corpsreps.com agrees with you [1]) I will move the Starlite article to Starlites. --Sam King 22:35, 30 September 2008 (PDT)
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